Richard Dawkins and Carlo Rovelli on science and culture – books podcast by Guardian Books podcast

This week we’re talking science and culture, and how to bridge the divide between the two, with Richard Dawkins and Carlo Rovelli.

As well as being the high priest of atheism, Dawkins is also a pioneering scientist. His books have sold more than 8m copies and he’s the only evolutionary biologist to have 1.3 million followers on Twitter. He joins us to discuss his latest collection of essays, Science in the Soul: Selected Writings of a Passionate Rationalist.

Rovelli is a professor of theoretical physics who became an unexpected publishing success in 2014 with his short introduction to the science of the very big and the very small, Seven Brief Lessons on Physics. It was published in more than 41 languages and sold more than 1m copies. Rovelli’s latest book, Reality Is Not What It Seems, grounds the cutting edge of contemporary physics in an intellectual tradition stretching back to the ancient Greeks.